In the post, Is Raising a Medical Exemption a Proper Way to Deal With Those Who Want Us to Where a Mask?, Justmon asks:
How to deal with flying on an airline?
This is an excellent question and points to the complexity of the world and the fact that authoritarian measures impact different parts of the economy differently.
Ever since 9-11, airlines in general have become more and more oppressive and the flight attendants midget-Mao beasts.
I don't know any easy way to get around the mask mandates on flights. Early on during the mask-wearing edicts, I know many used the "put a bag of nuts in front of you and slowly chew" routine but I am not sure how well that works now. The midget-Maos have caught on.
If anyone has ideas or experiences, please leave them in the comments.
There was a time that flying was fun and young attendants were hired who were looking to travel, perhaps find a husband in first class. They knew they had to treat passengers well to keep their jobs. Thanks to government regulations those days are gone.
From the Old America:
During the early days of the TSA debacle we could have stopped the insanity if enough people just stopped flying until the assaults stopped. For most of the New Abnormal something similar is true. If enough people – businesses, customers, etc. – stop cooperating with the edicts and cooperate with each other the anti-social BS just goes away.
ReplyDeleteToday airline travel is much more frowned upon by the general public due to the further advancement of the climate change hysteria. There are a lot of people that think airline travel should be reduced as much as possible. Meaning as much as possible for other than themselves. So the boycott tactic is as useful as the airline cronies power amongst the powers-that-should-not-be.
Previously I thought if everyone just stopped flying for a month the airlines would crack back on the TSA. The masking on flights seems like an easier problem to solve. No need to stop flying, we just need enough to stop cooperating with the masking. But it’s more complicated because that means we either pre-arrange with the airlines and the airports that we will not purchase tickets without assurance that we will not be required to mask or we ready ourselves for confrontation and the probability that our travel arrangements are canceled due to our unmaskedness. The success of both of these tactics will be based on how many others do the same and the reactions from the powers-that-should-not-be.
Is the climate change Great Reset important enough to the powers-that-should-not-be that they would cut off their airline conies?
Unfortunately Alex, the airlines dont need customers. They will get bailed out anyway and they know it. Their customer is the government and that is who they make happy. It's a de facto nationalized industry and the sooner folks realize that the better.
DeleteDavid B.
Alaska Airlines around New Year's made it clear that removing one's mask to eat or drink was for short periods only and no languid munching or sipping would be tolerated. I was not allowed to substitute a face shield for a mask. When I removed my mask to blow my nose and forgot to put it back on immediately I was asked sternly to do so. And the end to this crap is nowhere in sight.
ReplyDeleteI flew a decent amount throughout 2020, and a few trips so far in 2021. I've found a bag of gummy bears can buy me a couple hours. Haven't been approached by a flight attendant yet. But the language used has shifted, with the focus being on civil and criminal penalties under federal law. It used to be they just mention you won't be able to fly with the company again, if you don't comply.
ReplyDeleteI've been on 10 flights since the COVID hysteria began. I've been eating/drinking without a mask successfully on most of my flights. I was only harrassed by one attendant (white male 20-35 as you mentioned in a previous article) and zero times by another flyer. On the whole, domestic US flights have been the worst and trans-Atlantic flights have been the most lax.
ReplyDeleteWow, people still fly? Is it the prison style feel of the airports that turns one on? The never-helpful, rude employees? The tsa feel-ups/body scans? On top of these pleasantries you have the theatrical mask mandate enforced by smarmy 'stewardesses'. Seriously, people still fly? And you're on a libertarian site wondering how you can sneakily overcome one of the many indignities? Are you too weak to stand up for anything? "Gummy bears?", "Harassed by a male attendant"?
ReplyDeleteYou're putting me on right?
You obviously don't have grandchildren.
DeleteYou seem to be of the opinion that liberty needs to be centrally planned. We all have our own value scales and personal motivations. Live and let live, friend. Have a blessed day.
DeleteExactly right Scott O. If we all existed on this Earth as completely separate lonely entities, we could do as we please and not fly anywhere until the craziness passed.
DeleteBut we have lives to live and people we love. And we have family and friends with different levels of tolerance and support of tyranny.
Social dynamics have been made more complex due to these various mandates. Navigating how we deal with the requirements of family is very problematic.
As a dad of two little girls and a third on the way, all I can say is thank fucking gawd i bought a minivan in 2019 lol.
David B.
This is the biggest struggle for me. I essentially am banned from air travel as I have a 2 year old. She won't wear a mask for 3 seconds let alone 3 hours. You know.... cuz she is a fucking 2 year old. I have several conversations with several airlines trying to secure her travel in advance, and none of them will cooperate without a medical examination.
ReplyDeleteAnd since my wife and I are not trained torture practitioners we're not interested in teaching our little girl how to cope with masks. We actually had to pull her out of a Mommy-and-me ballet class because my daughter could not keep one on. I mean, ffs people are loons.
The airlines are a hostage industry, completely controlled by government. And how did they acheive this? By terrorizing the public over 9/11. They preyed on human fear. Sound familiar?
David B.
They're not called "The Terrible Twos" for nothing. Do these bureaucrats not have children or grandchildren?
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DeleteSome actually do. But "the rules" are more important than their offspring.