|Proud Boys and founder Gavin McInnes|
At the post, Proud Boys Beat Protesters After Gavin McInnes Event At Manhattan GOP Club, I see a number of comments cheering on the Proud Boys.
There was this:
Good stuff. PBs are the frontlines against leftist scum. Libertarians were in that fight, and they are the real heroes of our movement.And this:
I've read Gavin McInnes's articles over the years from time to time, listened to some of his interviews and podcasts, and even bought an absolutely hilarious (yet profane) book he wrote ("How to Piss in Public")...and I've never seen even a glimmer of "white power" bigotry, anywhere. Maybe I'm not current enough or hip enough, but I just find him funny and refreshingly honest and outspoken.Notice, dear readers, there is nothing libertarian about these guys, Libertarianism is about non-aggression. That is not what these guys are about. They are about physical clashes with those who have opposing views.
The Proud Boys have a four-degree initiation process for new members. In the first degree, a recruit must declare "I am a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world." The second degree involves five or more Proud Boys punching the recruit until he names five breakfast cereals. To earn the third degree, the recruit must get a Proud Boy tattoo.The Proud Boys' website says that the fourth degree is reserved for those who have "endured a major conflict related to the cause [which is said requires the recruit to get into a physical fight with an Antifa activist at a public rally].Here are McInnes clips which seem to back up that take.
Gavin McInnes: "i cannot recommend violence enough. It is a really effective way to solve problems." pic.twitter.com/XcWBWBkrh8— Media Matters (@mmfa) October 15, 2018
Ludwig von Mises wrote in his book, Liberalism, when commenting on the soft-Fascism in Italy that battled the extremely violent Bolsheviks in the streets:
The frank [Bolshevik] espousal of a policy of annihilating opponents in the murders committed in the pursuance of it have given rise to an opposition movement ....
Fascism can triumph today because universal indignation at the infamies committed by the socialists and communists has obtained for it the sympathies of wide circles. But when the fresh impression of the crimes of the Bolsheviks has paled, the socialist program will once again exercise its power of attraction on the masses. For Fascism does nothing to combat it except to suppress socialst ideas and to persecute the people who spread them. If it wanted really to combat socialism, it would have to oppose it with ideas.The same goes for the Proud Boys. They mouth nationalist slogans but there is no intellectual battle against central power. Indeed, if in their physical battle with the Antifa, if somehow their small group came to power, they would not be libertarians, they would be central power advocates for their side.
It is the same with Antifa, if they somehow came to power they would be central advocates for their side.
There is nothing libertarian about either of these groups. They must be monitored because of their extreme and violent views but, thankfully, at present both groups are very small.
Robert Wenzel is Editor & Publisher of
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