Monday, June 19, 2017

TWITTER BATTLE Woods vs. Raimondo on Using Leftist Disruptive Tactics



RW note: I have come down on the side of Tom Woods on this point in a number of posts, see for example: here and here.

(ht Jay Stephenson)

11 comments:

  1. I don't advocate lowering standards but I understand do on to others as they do on to you as well. In that vein of neutrality I offer a practical question:

    What has playing to higher standards ever accomplished against the authoritarian collectivist ends justify the means left?

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    1. It's "Do onto others as you would have them do onto you."

      Very different

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    2. No, it's "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

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  2. Disrupting a play is a clear violation of property rights and the NAP. I don't see how any self-professed libertarian can be for doing that.

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  3. We have license from to do pretty much whatever we need to stop their assualt on civilized society, up to and including physical removal. The only question is, how advantegous violence is to our goals.

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  4. Raimondo is a pure provocateur. I think he gets his fun on social media stirring the pot.

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  5. "Higher standards"?

    That's laughable. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Tom Woods (any anyone who agrees with him) is carrying on William F. Buckley's legacy of leading the right to noble defeat. I say, good day, sir!

    To hell with that!

    Those "childish" protesters will prove to be far more successful in bringing the worst behavior of the left to heel.

    The right can learn from Alinsky. And should, if it wants to win, rather than bemoaning the "childish" behavior of all.

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    1. Couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Why are our choices either Buckley or screaming like a leftist? You have no imagination, evidently.

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    2. Wake up Tom. When the other side are people like antifa, politeness is already gone.

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  6. Tom, "screaming like a leftist" not the edge of leftist extremism and you know it. Now that the left has openly drawn guns (along with bike locks and various improvised weapons), are you going to use the same logic? How long are you going to preen about how the left should simply moderate their bad behavior and bare fangs against people on the right actually making an effort to stop the insanity. Aristotle put it best:

    "[B]efore some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people one cannot instruct."

    They are ineducable. They are literally incapable of learning. They are insane. And you keep trying to be civil and logical with them. Trying to educate the ineducable. That makes you insane too. You're shooting right, like them, instead of left, as you should be.

    My language often waxes rhetorical, because I have observed that most of the Austrian School libertarians I am familiar with are as ineducable as the left. Prove me wrong. Please do tell, what does your imagination suggest instead?

    There were better and more effective things to scream, to be sure, but they were screaming like slightly inept rightists rather than leftists. Imagine if they had said "Long live the God-Emperor!" (one of Vox Day's suggestions). If they had done it dressed like Based Stickman, or some other real-life character, even better. I hear they're making a Based Stickman comic.

    Tom, your Rally for the Republic speech was heroic and inspiring. But it's not 2008 anymore. It's time for a new speech.

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