This has caused JaimeInTexas to respond:
Wake up Tom. When the other side are people like antifa, politeness is already gone.I really don't get this. Are we really supposed to act like those whose behavior we disapprove of?
I really don't like smelly SF homeless who rage in my face. Am I not supposed to shower for a month and rage in their face?
The easiest thing for me to do is to just avoid these characters.
As for the crazed left, this does not mean we should not act to protect our property, If there is a speech that is expected to go on, or some other gathering, that the crazed left might attempt to stop, well then, it should be held where there is plenty of security. Or where the crazed left is not likely to show up.
This is just common sense.
Although I have a "right" to eat a steak and have a glass of wine at night on a park bench in the Tenderloin, I sure as hell am not going to do it.
Again, common sense.
Engaging in battle by disturbing activity on private property to support freedom on private property seems quite absurd. That is not going to do anything but bring the battle to the gutter.
This is very low-level stuff. Everyone from Keynes to Ayn Rand to Hayek recognized that all societal battles are won by a few at a high intellectual level.
I can assure you that the street genius professor who was arrested after swinging a bike lock at the heads of righties in Berkeley is not a key foundational theorist of the Cultural Marxist school and Critical Theory views that he hugs so close to his chest. He is a low-level thug looking for support from the arguments of the Frankfurt School intellectuals that developed the theories.
The street thugs are as significant to the real intellectual battle as homeless are to the entrepreneurial battles going on in Silicon Valley.
Shimshon also responded to Tom:
Tom, "screaming like a leftist" not the edge of leftist extremism and you know it. Now that the left has openly drawn guns (along with bike locks and various improvised weapons), are you going to use the same logic? How long are you going to preen about how the left should simply moderate their bad behavior and bare fangs against people on the right actually making an effort to stop the insanity. Aristotle put it best:I am really trying to digest this comment. Shimshon writes:
"[B]efore some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people one cannot instruct."
They are ineducable. They are literally incapable of learning. They are insane. And you keep trying to be civil and logical with them. Trying to educate the ineducable. That makes you insane too. You're shooting right, like them, instead of left, as you should be.
My language often waxes rhetorical, because I have observed that most of the Austrian School libertarians I am familiar with are as ineducable as the left. Prove me wrong. Please do tell, what does your imagination suggest instead?
There were better and more effective things to scream, to be sure, but they were screaming like slightly inept rightists rather than leftists. Imagine if they had said "Long live the God-Emperor!" (one of Vox Day's suggestions). If they had done it dressed like Based Stickman, or some other real-life character, even better. I hear they're making a Based Stickman comic.
Tom, your Rally for the Republic speech was heroic and inspiring. But it's not 2008 anymore. It's time for a new speech.
They are ineducable. They are literally incapable of learning. They are insane.If they are ineducable, incapable of learning and insane, why are is Shimshon paying attention to them?
Sure we have to protect ourselves and our property but if you are going to engage with the
" ineducable, incapable of learning and insane." how are you going to do this other than on an "ineducable, incapable of learning and insane" level?
Is this what Silicon Valley entrepreneurs do, spend their time trying to convince batshit crazy San Francisco homeless to become software engineers?
I happen to think that a good portion of the left could get their crazed views punctured under the right circumstances, That's far from easy. And few on the right come anywhere near to having the skills to do this but the answer is not doing the same batshit crazy things that the leftist are doing.
This is a long game, a very long game, that is not going to be won in the next election cycle or the one after that. If you don't like the intellectual battle for the battle itself and think you are going to move the world toward freedom by acting like a lefty thug, you are greatly mistaken and you are probably much better off surfing the sports channels because the battle isn't going to be won anytime soon and it is certainly not going to be won imitating the lunatic left that hates private property and debate.
On the other hand, if you love the intellectual battle then you should study and study to make your intellectual firepower superior so that you are able to intellectually destroy anyone your inferior.
That said, it is certainly possible on a given important issue of the day to use short term tactics and form alliances to attempt to destroy a particularly dangerous interventionist intrusion. However, this must be a well thought out strategy with precise goals. Not a random reactionary action based on nothing more than "Well, they are doing this to us, so we are going to do it to them." What is that going to accomplish other than result in pitched battles with no logic nor direction?
How does disrupting a private event promote private property? What is the goal of the disruption beyond getting animal spirits charged up on both sides?
This is not how the intellectually superior will win.