This afternoon I had lunch with a medical doctor friend.
He tells me, but not officialy, that he doesn't trust any of the COVID vaccines BUT if anyone "has to" take one, he would recommend the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. He says they use the old technology that is used for flu vaccines.
According to him, all the others use the new mRNA technology.
To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies that is what the J&J COVID vaccine does.
The others use the mRNA technology which teaches our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies.
But then there is this about the "safest" one. From the New York Post:
-RWA North Carolina county paused COVID-19 vaccines at a local immunization site on Thursday after 18 people had “adverse” reactions to Johnson & Johnson’s single-dose shot — after a site in Colorado did the same thing a day earlier.
Wake County halted vaccine operations at the PNC Arena in Raleigh following the incidents “out of an abundance of caution,” officials said.
More than 2,300 Johnson & Johnson vaccinations were administered at the clinic Thursday and EMS evaluated 18 patients, Wake County said.
Fourteen of those people had “minor reactions” and were treated on site, while four others were taken to area hospitals for evaluation. They were expected to be released.
RW, I wish your doctor friend was right, but unfortunately he's got a few critical and basic things wrong.
ReplyDeleteFirst, the J&J vaccine is an adenovirus-based vaccine, and it's not the first one for COVID. While the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are mRNA-based, the AstraZeneca vaccine is also using an adenovirus. That's the one we've been seeing with blood clotting issues.
Second, these adenovirus-based vaccines are not the old school vaccines with weakened / inactivated viruses. They work in a similar way to the mRNA vaccines by making your cells produce the spike protein; they just deliver it via adenovirus rather than mRNA.
While the adenovirus-based vaccine can be considered less experimental since it's been used for other things like the ebola vaccine, it is not the traditional stuff like the polio vaccine and measles and mumps vaccine.
Not surprising his doctor friend doesn't know squat about vaccines. Most doctors don't, but are all too willing to tell their patients that they are "safe and effective".
DeleteOn the J&J vaccine: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine.html
Why you shouldn't trust J&J: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/johnson-johnson-why-trust-vaccine/
Yup. Disappointing, but not unexpected. As a physician, I can say with certainty that most doctors are uninformed, yet dogmatic, about a variety of subjects even within their bailiwick.
DeleteThey are Very Smart People who “believe the science” and view credentials as the most important part of the argument.
Your doctor friend is incorrect - all three create genetic versions of the spike protein, just by different genetic mechanisms. J+J vaccine is not a traditional vaccine.
DeleteExcellent comments; a friend of my mother's, who got the swine jab back in the day, developed Guillan-Barre. Recently, she had surgery, for which a pain-killer was needed. The "science believing" doc said this when the patient told her she was allergic to Fentanyl: "OK, we will just give you a little." The woman went into cardiac arrest, but survived. Fortunately, she has a son who is a judge.
DeleteDoctoring requires a lot of institutionalized education by law. As a result it filters for people who are good at school and institutions, not necessarily people who are good at the profession. Someone who has the knack for being a doctor and is very poor with institutionalized formal schooling will not make it in most cases. Someone who has no gift for it at all but is very good at school and institutions will get the degrees and licenses.
DeleteFurthermore independent thought from doctors has been punished by the AMA, state license boards, the FDA, and much more for a very long time. Especially if that independent thought cuts into the profits of the industry and doctors. And that's how it is.
true enough!
DeleteJust the tip, just for a minute, just to see how it feels...
ReplyDeleteWake County?? You can't make this stuff up.
ReplyDeleteThe mRNA shots are gene therapy. The SEC filings state this explicitly. They admit that these medical procedures will alter your DNA.
ReplyDeleteBelieve J&J. How many millions (or is it billions) have they been fined for lying and criminal activities? Talc anyone?
ReplyDeletehttps://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/johnson-johnson-why-trust-vaccine/
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