Tuesday, January 23, 2018

Murray Rothbard on Targeting a Particular Class

Given President Trump's claim of many rapist Mexicans and other type of criminal Mexicans in the United States and therefore his loose claim that all Mexicans should be shipped out, it may pay to consider some thoughts of Murray Rothbard in The Ethics of Liberty:
Perhaps the largest criminal class today in the United States is teenage black males. The risk of this class committing a crime is far greater than any other age, gender, or color group. Why not, then, lock up all teenage black males until they are old enough for the risk to diminish?...
I submit that there is only one why not, and this should be no news to libertarians who presumably believe in the inalienable individual rights; namely that no one has the right to coerce anyone not himself directly engaged in an overt act of aggression against rights. Any loosening of this criterion, to include coercion against remote "risks," is to sanction impermissible aggression against the rights of others. Any loosening of this criterion, furthermore, is a passport to unlimited despotism. Any state founded on these principles has been conceived, not immaculately (i.e., without interfering with anyone's rights), but by a savage act of rape. 


I should add that in a Private Property Society this type of problem wouldn't exist. You just set your own rules for your property.


  1. I understand Murray's point, but that view also requires that these apes, and that includes white criminals, have the same moral plane. But since that is not the case, we really should be looking at reality here. Just about every city in America with mostly black population is now a disaster. But hey, I'm 'da rasis' to point that out. We desperately need more African Somalis. :LOL:


    1. Re: The Lab Mismanager,

      How quaint --an Appeal To Perfection.

      -- But hey, I'm 'da rasis' to point that out. --

      Ah, that's funny. No, it's not for that only.

    2. Show me Franco that these Simian are up to my level. You are a liar if you would prefer whit neighborhood to ghetto black ones. Since you are so smart, show me the African, Chinese, or Middle Eastern Plato, Aristotle, Mises, Rothbard, Locke, Jefferson. Only one culture could have produced that.

      Would you rather live in Liberia or Haiti, or Norway, or Belgium? These 'turd' world has had plenty of time to catch up. Why can't they? Maybe IQ and culture?

    3. Re: The Lab Mismanager,

      --- Show me Franco that these Simian are up to my level. ---

      Oh, no one is at your level, Mismanager. That's quite impossible.

      --- Would you rather live in Liberia or Haiti, or Norway, or Belgium? ---

      I go where the money is. The color I love is green.

      And you seriously ask for Chinese philosophers? Or Middle Eastern?


      Babylon influenced Greek philosophy:

      "It is possible that Babylonian philosophy had an influence on Greek philosophy, and later Hellenistic philosophy, however the textual evidence is lacking. The undated Babylonian text Dialog of Pessimism contains similarities to the agnostic thought of the sophists, the Heraclitean doctrine of contrasts, and the dialogs of Plato, as well as a precursor to the maieutic Socratic method of Socrates and Plato.[13] The Milesian philosopher Thales is also said to have studied philosophy in Mesopotamia.


      One of the most influential Muslim philosophers in the West was Averroes (Ibn Rushd), founder of the Averroism school of philosophy."


      Your unjustified arrogance says more about your desire to hide your mediocrity than of any extraordinary knowledge you might possess. I learned a long time ago that there's a lot you can learn from other people, not just those who seem to agree with your worldview.

    4. I find it interesting that the one reference to the Elephant in the room (lab called it moral plane,) is completely discarded by Francisco where even Rothbard indirectly references it as a result of a an urban environment.

      I say call it out for what it is Moral center of human endeavor! Because without it it matters not what your race or background or skin color

    5. Franco has still not shown any smarts regarding the issue of race, culture, and IQ. And did include whites in those being on the same moral plane, but that was conveniently overlooked.

      No one can show me how any of these modern day cultures and races in those areas can contribute anything positive to a Western society.

    6. The Lab Manager has to be a troll.

  2. "I should add that in a Private Property Society this type of problem wouldn't exist."

    Let me add that once again, you're wandering off to the land of make believe RW. The point is that a PPS can't spring into existence ex nihilo, that the state is in full control, I'm sad to say and that your left-libertarian open borders propaganda - nicely in lockstep with state sponsored weapons of mass migration/forced association - will lead society further away from anything resembling a PPS.

    In short: Libertarian in Theory Only, leftist multiculturalist in practice.

    Kind regs from Amsterdam,

  3. Let me further add that RW's fake-libertarianism was heavily criticized by, you know.. Murray Rothbard.

    Let's hear from the master (1993) who is misrepresented in this blogpost as supposedly subscribing to the Cult of Diversity-speak of Target Liberty

    "In the past four years, the Official Libertarians have catapulted Leftward at an accelerating rate. At every hand, while still mouthing general "libertarian" slogans, this Official Movement is increasingly abandoning libertarian principles and embracing leftist egalitarian statism."

    Or how about this one?

    "Part of this grandiose separatism, which I did not fully realize at the time, stemmed from an intense hatred of the right-wing, from libertarian anxiety never to be connected with or labeled as a conservative or a right-wing movement. And part of that hatred has come from a broader and even more intense hatred of Christianity, some of which was taken over from Ayn Rand."

    Have a nice one,
    Richard (from Amsterdam)