I like the Dead Wrong series, but he seems to be skirting the issue a bit. Mr Norberg makes a good point that feminism has changed how rape is defined, but that's not what is meant these days when people say that Sweden is a mecca for rapists. When Sweden and rape are used in conjunction today (except when referring to Assange), the discussion typically centers around the recent immigration crisis - which, except for simply mentioning the word ("mass immigration"), is not discussed by Mr Norberg in this video.
Yes, but according to libertarian autism, borders are statist and evil therfore mass immigration is noble and good.
To be fair, if the libertarian doctrine of not providing any assistance to anyone was applied, borders would be meaningless. Instead, Sweden and other countries provide tons of benefits for the do nothings which gives them a lot of free time to spend raping and pillaging.
> problems of "mass immigration" are caused by the state> wants the benevolent and competent state to solve the problem> claims other people are autistic and utopian
@paul Hanson - state borders, like anything else the state claims, are immoral. Same with the welfare state that brings so many of the poorest immigrants. But private borders and private charity are great!In our private/public environment, what would you suggest the solution to human movement be? Use violence to keep people from making a living? Use violence to make their homelands even more intolerable? Use violence to supply the poor with handouts? How about letting people who can work and afford to live somewhere do it and only supporting those that can't with private charity? Oh...and our govts could also stop bombing the places they supposedly don't want refugees from. Too simple?
The state isn't going away any time soon, and time and again the libertarians have proven themselves too politically impotent to have any impact on public policy. So long as the state exists, it should behave as a market actor as best as it can. Most private entities would never allow unchecked movement across their property.
@Paul Hansen - Agreed. I dont think anyone can argue that people should be forced to invite a group of strangers to walk through their living room uninvited. But I think we have to step back and see what some of the primary causal factors are that create this conflict. Then we might have a hope of creating effective solutions to minimize if not eliminate the problem. It's a multi-factorial problem for sure...here are the big things I see...1) no private ownership of property boundaries at city or territory level. Only state entity ownership at those sizes.2) that same state often is acting as an agressor in other territories which drives immigration into outlying territories.3) that same state often maintains a large welfare system which can be taken advantage of by immigrants (but mostly by domestic poor)4) lax enforcement of current immigration and criminal laws by same state5)...I'm sure there are more...1) appears fairly interactable right now (hence your comment about no public policy shifts). But elimination of 2) and 3) seem like prime targets. Right?So how about proposing we stop allowing our govt to pay people for doing nothing, (forcing private charity to put up or shut up), stop bombing other counties, and allow people who add to our economy where they wish? Sure, you can call that "open borders". But to do anything more you'd have to eliminate the causes of 1) and 4) as well, which is I believe is the state itself.
Since the state is the weapon in play I would like to see the Republicans in power use it to destroy the left. End all welfare and stop all immigration of all non whites.
Ok...well at least I got you to agree to point #3 above. But your zenophobic/racist desires don't really help me when I want to hire and partner with the best people... independent of your fantacies.
And just FYI from where I'm sitting, YOU are the left. You should be careful with wishing violence on people dude.
Your lack of in group preferences doesn't help to make a more peaceful society. You may want to hire and import someone who values self detonation to please his prophet, or will at least breed those individuals into existence.
Nobody in this convo wants to "import" people, much less "self detonators". Where did you get that from? Who is advocating importing violent people? Please read my points above again. I'm suggesting methods for eliminating state funded mass migration of poor and violent. Please try to keep up.Also, you don't seem to have a problem trying to dictate to everyone who they should be allowed to associate with. See any self contractions with that? Its the same attitude the left has as they try to force everyone to pay for different mass migration efforts. And I thought you weren't a leftist?Preventing free movement of peaceful people is the same as advocating that the state pre-crime prosecute people, right? Good luck with that. Better make sure you're part of the in crowd when that really goes down hard. Hint: you won't be. Just try and get off the terrorist watch list today if you're notna seating senator.So again, if you just stop handing out freebies and stop bombing, the vast majority of people moving around are going to be the ones that want to work and build wealth. You already accepted my point #3. Too much to ask for #2 as well? I know #1 and #4 are too far fetched for you...even though they are the root issues.
I'm all for the cessation of bombing third world hellholes that just produce radicals who want to slaughter non muslims. I'm also in favor of eliminating all welfare and letting the unproductive classes starve to death. While we're at it, it would be fantastic to press a button and have Margot Robbie naked in my bed whenever I want.However since none of these things are in the realm of possibility, I'll support Trump as he tries his best to crack down on illegals and shut down the border. I would like to see a halt on all non white immigration, as right now the immigrants we do let it in vote for leftist policies that expand the reach of the state.