Wednesday, October 5, 2016

The Debate: Mike Pence Goes War Hawk

The network talking heads immediately after Tuesday night's vice-presidential debate began discussing the fact that Mike Pence beat Tom Kaine in the debate. CNN heads, in particular. were going crazy attempting to spin the Kaine loss.

But there were more important things that were revealed in the debate, The first and most significant is that Tom Kaine can be one nasty SOB. Roger Stone called him an obnoxious asshole, rude prick.

Keep in mind that if Hillary Clinton wins the election and her health fails her, Kaine will be sitting on the thrown. Think about that long and hard, a nasty Jesuit liberation theory advocate as president.

As for Pence, he revealed his war hawkish side, which really did not contradict Donald Trump's position.

Pence said during the debate:
The United States of America needs to begin to exercise strong leadership to protect the vulnerable citizens in over 100,000 children in Aleppo. Hillary Clinton's top priority when she became secretary of state was the Russian reset. After the Russian reset, the Russians invaded Ukraine and took over Crimea. The small and bullying the leader of Russia is now dictating terms to the United States to the point where all the United States of America, the greatest nation on Earth, just withdraws from talk about a cease-fire while that a mere Putin puts a missile defense in Syria while he marshaled the forces and begins — look, we have got to lean into this with strong, broad-shouldered American leadership that begins by rebuilding our military...

About Aleppo and Syria, I truly do believe that what America ought to do is immediately establish Safe Zones so that families with children can move out of those areas, work with our Arab partners real-time, right now to make that happen. The provocations by Russia need to be met by American strength. If Russia continues to be involved in this barbaric attack on civilians in Aleppo, the US needs to be prepared to strike military targets of the Assad regime, to prevent them from this humanitarian crisis taking place in Aleppo.

There is a broad range of other things we ought to do as well. We should deploy a missile defense shield to the Czech Republic and Poland, which had Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama pulled back on...

I understand why you want to change the subject and let me be clear on this Russians thing. What we are dealing with is — there is an old proverb that says the Russian bear never dies, but hibernates. This foreign policy from Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has awakened a Russian aggression that first appeared a few years ago with their move into Georgia and Crimea and into the wider Middle East. All we do now is full of our arms and say, "We are not having talks anymore." We need to marshal the resources of our allies in the region and end the immediate — we need to act and act now to get people out of harm's way...

The safe zones would have to be, as the senator said, there is a framework that has been recognized by the international community, but the United States needs to be prepared to work with others in the region to create a route for safe passage, and to protect people in those areas, including with a no-fly zone.
It's time to recognize that whoever wins the election, the United States is going into a dark period. Our only hope is that it will just be a passing cloud. It will for sure though be a very dark cloud regardless of its length.



  1. A dark period or nuclear war. Pence is a fool.
    Russia has deployed the S-400 anti-missile system in Syria . And guess what?! It works!
    In other words Russia is tired of being played the worlds fool by the US.
    Go ahead Kerry. Go ahead Obama. Go ahead Killary, make your pathetic "no fly zone" and watch your jets get plowed out of the sky.
    Russia is no newbie to war. They have been threatened for years and years. They aren't going to sit back and get invaded again sitting on their thumbs.
    Hey you stupid freaking neo-cons!!
    The Russians have Nukes too! And the State I live in is only 50 miles from Russian territory!
    We here in Alaska want peace.
    The only government I fear is the US government, the biggest terrorist in the world.

  2. It's up to Libertarians to put up alternative candidates. And we have to do better than Johnson/Weld.
    We lose elections and then whine about how things never change.

  3. I'm just delighted that people took the time to:
    a) Find out when the vice presidential debate was taking place
    b) Actually turn on the TV at the scheduled time
    c) Put in the herculean effort to sit through the whole thing
    d) Spend additional time thinking about it
    e) Write a summary so that I wouldn't have to do any of the above!