I don't understand the point of posting this at Target->Liberty. As one of the last speakers pointed out, many if not most are in for drug-related "crimes." According to the NAP they shouldn't be in prison at all. If making fun of homos doing what they will is the purpose, well sure, I started doing that in 5th grade. But the joke is very long in the tooth. I'm a thin anarchist, so it's not my job to support their "cause" and I don't. The NAP certainly allows making fun of them, if that's your bend. So I'm not saying making fun of them by posting this is in any way wrong. I'm saying it's boring.
You are letting the politically correct crowd get into your head. If there was a jail that bunked straight males with playboy bunnies, I would post that video also.
Can we say discriminshun? How about favoritism? What gpond doesn't get is that the sodomites and lesbians don't want equal rights, they want special rights and they are getting them. And if you notice it, you are a very bad person. OK OK, just boring. (It's called damage control. If you can't deny it, downplay it,)
"What xxx doesn't get is that the heterosexuals don't want equal rights, they want special rights and they are getting them. And if you notice it, you are a very bad person."
Please, as a hard-core libertarian who also happens to be gay, I find that the NAP also allows me to take offense at the attitude of the majority towards the small minority I apparently belong to. Do you not realise gpond that "making fun of homos ... in 5th grade" is part of the problem? Do you not see how deeply you can hurt a teenager struggling with being gay by 'making fun of him'? But I’m glad you got bored of crushing my spirit. Believe me, suicide has often seemed a preferable option to me than being gay. Is that what you want – to drive sensitive lads and men into an early grave with your ridicule? In theory I do not agree at all with the special pleading of my peers, but I do understand entirely why they so often resort to legislative protection, and do not blame them for that. When you have spent your life – often from a young age – being bullied and ridiculed by a callous majority for being 'different', it is not hard to appreciate that, in the absence of a sound political philosophy, you might see some justification in using the stick of state to fight back.
Indeed, this is the ugly side of the libertarian 'community' that I think Jeffrey Tucker is partially alluding to when he talks about Brutalism. While the NAP, as the greatest common good across all ethnicities and social strata, represents the key foundation stone of a free society, it's not the only foundation stone. It is in my opinion one side of a coin. The passive side – do no harm, as Hippocrates admonished us. And yet a free society does not thrive just because we refrain from doing each other harm. It truly thrives only when we actively seek to love one another. In other words, when we are free to make voluntary sacrifices of time, energy, money – even life – to build the other up, even when that 'other' is different than us. That’s the other side of the coin, and the one that speaks more affirmatively into a gay man’s heart.
You wish that more liberals/gays would see the political error of their ways and join the libertarian cause? Then speak to their heart. Talk about how a libertarian ‘society’ would be one in which caring for others is far more rewarding than it is within the current coercive paradigm. Give young gays an affirmative vision of who they are and what they can offer society, with their creativity and caring urge. My experience is that gay men generally have servant hearts. Encourage that, don’t crush it.
Aaah, the music of squeaky springs!
ReplyDeleteAND, they could easily cut their bed costs in half! (or maybe 1/4?)
ReplyDeleteI don't understand the point of posting this at Target->Liberty. As one of the last speakers pointed out, many if not most are in for drug-related "crimes." According to the NAP they shouldn't be in prison at all. If making fun of homos doing what they will is the purpose, well sure, I started doing that in 5th grade. But the joke is very long in the tooth. I'm a thin anarchist, so it's not my job to support their "cause" and I don't. The NAP certainly allows making fun of them, if that's your bend. So I'm not saying making fun of them by posting this is in any way wrong. I'm saying it's boring.
ReplyDeleteYou are letting the politically correct crowd get into your head. If there was a jail that bunked straight males with playboy bunnies, I would post that video also.
DeleteI am not letting the PC crowd in my head.
DeleteHowever, I see that showing a video of males bunking with playboy bunnies would be entertaining, and I can see why you would post it.
I got in your head by saying that what you posted was boring.
Regards,
gpond
LOL, You can say many things about Wenzel posts but boring is not one of them.
DeleteWow, great comeback there, gpond. Hopefully you feel a little better with that retort.
DeleteCan we say discriminshun? How about favoritism? What gpond doesn't get is that the sodomites and lesbians don't want equal rights, they want special rights and they are getting them.
ReplyDeleteAnd if you notice it, you are a very bad person.
OK OK, just boring.
(It's called damage control. If you can't deny it, downplay it,)
"What xxx doesn't get is that the heterosexuals don't want equal rights, they want special rights and they are getting them. And if you notice it, you are a very bad person."
DeleteSee how bankrupt your reasoning is?
Please, as a hard-core libertarian who also happens to be gay, I find that the NAP also allows me to take offense at the attitude of the majority towards the small minority I apparently belong to. Do you not realise gpond that "making fun of homos ... in 5th grade" is part of the problem? Do you not see how deeply you can hurt a teenager struggling with being gay by 'making fun of him'? But I’m glad you got bored of crushing my spirit. Believe me, suicide has often seemed a preferable option to me than being gay. Is that what you want – to drive sensitive lads and men into an early grave with your ridicule? In theory I do not agree at all with the special pleading of my peers, but I do understand entirely why they so often resort to legislative protection, and do not blame them for that. When you have spent your life – often from a young age – being bullied and ridiculed by a callous majority for being 'different', it is not hard to appreciate that, in the absence of a sound political philosophy, you might see some justification in using the stick of state to fight back.
ReplyDeleteIndeed, this is the ugly side of the libertarian 'community' that I think Jeffrey Tucker is partially alluding to when he talks about Brutalism. While the NAP, as the greatest common good across all ethnicities and social strata, represents the key foundation stone of a free society, it's not the only foundation stone. It is in my opinion one side of a coin. The passive side – do no harm, as Hippocrates admonished us. And yet a free society does not thrive just because we refrain from doing each other harm. It truly thrives only when we actively seek to love one another. In other words, when we are free to make voluntary sacrifices of time, energy, money – even life – to build the other up, even when that 'other' is different than us. That’s the other side of the coin, and the one that speaks more affirmatively into a gay man’s heart.
You wish that more liberals/gays would see the political error of their ways and join the libertarian cause? Then speak to their heart. Talk about how a libertarian ‘society’ would be one in which caring for others is far more rewarding than it is within the current coercive paradigm. Give young gays an affirmative vision of who they are and what they can offer society, with their creativity and caring urge. My experience is that gay men generally have servant hearts. Encourage that, don’t crush it.