Friday, January 26, 2018

Are White Anti-Immigrants That Afraid of Third World Cultures?

There is quite the debate going on in the comments section of the post, A Reply to The Lab Manager on Superior Thinking Outside the White Race.

What has struck me in a general way about the debate is the degree to which anti-immigrant whites seem to fear losing their culture to third world cultures and their willingness to call in the government to stop the third world culture advance.

First, it strikes that if the white culture that was responsible for the growth of this country is to go down it is because of the Cultural Marxist, politically correct thinking of whites who have grown up in America--and are at least second and third generation Americans.

The immigrants I know generally keep their heads down---especially the undocumented, my preferred way that immigrants should enter the country.

The fear of these undocumented by the anti-immigrant whites, who seem to consider themselves superior in everything but playing basketball, seems laughable. These whites think they are going to lose so badly to undocumented, who in their eyes are not as smart and culturally sophisticated, that they want to call in the government to help them?

These whites don't get it. In my upcoming book, Foundations of Private Property Society Theory, the first chapter is titled "The Myth of the Necessity of Government." It is precisely the government that is causing an immigrant "problem" by coddling them in the manner that white Cultural Marxists prefer.

This problem goes away in a private property society.

For these anti-immigrant whites, their call for the government to deport the undocumented is a sanctioning of the very state that creates the immigrant "problem."

These anti-immigrants should really chill on the support of the state and advocate its end so that they can then live in their lily-white part of the PPS.

  -RW

39 comments:

  1. Interesting situation in my town. It turns out many of those opposed to this mosque have Asian (subcontinent and far eastern) names. They have made it into their $700,000 DREAM houses, now want the government to ACT to keep the mosque away. The guy quoted opposed is white. Most of the written testimony against is by the aforementioned Asian surnamed.

    http://youarecurrent.com/2018/01/23/carmel-residents-overflow-bza-meeting-to-voice-concerns-with-islamic-center-proposal/

    Eric Morris

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  2. I am with you Bob

    If I had a choice of a neighbor between Tashitaa Tufaa, the Ethopian immigrant who came to America and washed dishes and now is a millionare entrepreneur in Minneapolis or living next door to David Duke, I will take the later than the former.

    https://www.voanews.com/a/ethiopian-refugees-journey-to-american-dream-dishwasher-to-millionaire/4041584.html

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  3. 3 points: 1) You're right in that it is the Cult-Marxists that want to end American culture as we have known it by expanding the invasion. By fighting the invasion we are fighting Cult-Marxists.

    2) They may keep their heads down when they're 10% of the population, but how sure are you that they will when they and they're children are 40% of the population?

    3) Even if the Native Americans had a higher IQ or more advanced culture when the Europeans invaded in the 17th & 18th centuries, do you believe that would have somehow been able to prevent their domination?

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  4. If we had the Swiss system:

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/swiss-town-denies-passport-to-dutch-vegan-because-she-is-annoying-125316437.html

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  5. The culture we want to encourage, is that of freedom, private property rights, the NAP. If these are in place the other cultural differences are beneficial. At worst these differences are tolerable. If you will not tolerate different skin, language, customs, food, fashion, music … of people that respect your private property rights you are intolerable.

    The problem is that the State is not going away anytime soon. The solution of a PPS is a long way off. So what should we do now?

    I have previously commented in this blog, “IMO it is a bad idea to let the state take freedoms with the expectation that additional aggression from the state will result in more overall freedom.” But I do understand the reasoning behind bolstering one part of the State to diminish another part of the State with the hope that less freedoms will be lost.

    Specifically the control of immigration by the State has not been effective. To make it effective would require a police-state I do not want to live in.

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  6. Libertarianism is only exclusive to Western culture. Turd world countries offer nothing to us and neither do most other cultures. You can't even get high IQ white people to understand property rights or NAP. 10 million turd Africans, Haitians, Indians (with a dot) or even some Asians do not bring about a libertarian society. South America does not do much either.

    No one will address world IQ and culture and whether these people bring anything to the table other than problems.

    The fact of the matter is that America is full, and we don't need anymore immigration. Automation is taking jobs even by STEM people. Farming is becoming more automated. I'm not anti-automation, but I see little evidence of new jobs being produced in the numbers relative to population.

    I'm still waiting for hypocrites like Franco Torres and the rest of his mindset to move to an African country, Haiti, the Congo, or some mostly black run American city.

    The issue of assimilation is vitally important. Ignore at your peril. Too bad I have to be dragged along to oblivion by virtue signaling leftards, cuckservatives, and libertardians.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/08/what-alt-right-is.html

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    1. So it's ok to initiate violence against peaceful people so long as they have a lower IQ than You? Fascinating take on the NAP! Are there any other arbitrary exceptions we should know about?

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    2. Seriously, you are using the ole' automation argument?

      Name a period a time in history when automation lead to mass unemployment

      In 2000, there 130,000 people working in video rental stores. Where did they go?

      "In 1910, one out of 20 of the American workforce was on the railways. In the late 1940s, 350,000 manual telephone operators worked for AT&T alone. In the 1950s, elevator operators by the hundreds of thousands lost their jobs to passengers pushing buttons. Typists have vanished from offices. But if blacksmiths unemployed by cars or TV repairmen unemployed by printed circuits never got another job, unemployment would not be 5 percent, or 10 percent in a bad year. It would be 50 percent and climbing.

      Each month in the United States—a place with about 160 million civilian jobs—1.7 million of them vanish. Every 30 days, in a perfectly normal manifestation of creative destruction, over 1 percent of the jobs go the way of the parlor maids of 1910. Not because people quit. The positions are no longer available. The companies go out of business, or get merged or downsized, or just decide the extra salesperson on the floor of the big-box store isn't worth the costs of employment."
      http://reason.com/archives/2017/07/11/the-myth-of-technological-unem

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    3. BTW Lab Manager

      I was born and raised in a majority black city in Tennessee. So yes I have first hand experience. I also lived in a majority white city in Tennessee once and I will take Memphis over Knoxville any day

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    4. When there is a free market automation does reduce the number of jobs. When there is a well regulated corporatist economy it does. The reason is that the free market creates places for people to go, new things for them to do. The corporatist economy is about maintaining the existing corporations on top and as such new things for people to do is cut off by design.

      So do we consider things in the ideal sense or at least how they were in decades past or more of the present situation? Of course the goal is to fix the root cause and go back towards a free market but that's not what happens in practice.

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    5. "Seriously, you are using the ole' automation argument? "

      What's your point? All you did was rehash the tired old libertardian BS that more jobs are always created blah, blah, blah. I'm not against automation; I've done agricultural work and it's not always a joy. And yes, we do have a corporatist economy unfortunately. I'm still wondering where those 4 day work week are by the Kenesians. I guess I have to pay taxes to support the military industrial complex and crappy immigrants that provide zero value to America.

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    6. I love how Republicans nominate a candidate that calls Hispanics murderers and rapists, and then turn around and complain that they don’t vote Republican.

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    7. the first line of my previous comment should be 'doesn't reduce'

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    8. Donxon: "So it's ok to initiate violence against peaceful people so long as they have a lower IQ than You?"

      Do you pay [federal] income taxes? Why do you initiate more violence by forcing others to pay more taxes to cover the new burdens?

      Evan Smiley:

      I am "hispanic" and Hispanics vote Democrats because Democrats are more aligned with, generally speaking, with Democrat's view of government, which explain the hell holes they are leaving. The problem is that they do not leave behind the habits, behaviors and political views that created those hell holes.

      If y'all like Mexican culture, which includes their view of the role of government, so much move to Mexico.

      What is the path to eliminate warfare/welfare to get closer to a private property society? What about "publicly" owned properties?

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  7. Robert Higgs with the mic drop

    "Even if Mexican immigrants on average will tend to vote for Democrats in the future, it does not follow that Pedro and Juan, whom the U.S. laws deny entry into the country, would do so. Acting morally means treating every person as he deserves, not treating every person as a perfect representative of the average person in a certain group. Doing the latter commits the sin of collectivism, which is the very thing that many anti-immigrationists pretend to fear if immigrants are allowed into the USA."

    https://fee.org/articles/nativists-can-t-predict-the-future/

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    1. Amongst hispanics, 70% vote for the party of Nancy Pelosi.

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    2. And how would that change the already Blue color of California? Even without these Hispanics, white voters in the Bay Area, San Jose and L.A. would have still voted for Pelosi.

      Here is something to ponder, Texas is 28% Hispanic yet it is one of the Reddest states in America.

      And West Virginia, which is America's least Hispanic state has a Democratic governor, a two to one Democratic majority in the state House of Delegates and has a Democratic US Senator.

      Curious how Hispanics are to blame for West Virgina. Do tell

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    3. Higgs is an ignorant dope. Still blind to culture and IQ.

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    4. Re. West Virginia

      Because the Democrats' believe in the supremacy of the Unitarian federal government power. Anything the expands the power of the FedGov they pursue.

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  8. If our target is a libertarian society, do we agree that importing non-libertarians hinders it?

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    1. Not as much as sending government goons to round up peaceful people hinders it. Any libertarian cheering on the roundup on peaceful immigrants is being played for a fool and deserves what comes next.

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    2. Who is the "our" that you speak of? I'm an individual, and my moral code dictates that my target is non-aggression and co-operation.

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    3. How do we know they are all 'peaceful' immigrants? What about them bringing in turd world diseases the West has mostly eradicated (like TB)? In hordes, are they not an agressor against me, a citizen?

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    4. By this logic, we should also deport all non-libertarians, and be left with a country of 5 million people

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    5. "By this logic, we should also deport all non-libertarians, and be left with a country of 5 million people"

      Sounds good to me. :)

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    6. Of boo boo. What is your point? All I've heard from you is 'yeah but the problem I want the government to solve is really serious and important so we have to make a special exception to every single libertarian principal there is and run around kidnapping people who haven't aggressed against anyone because Im afraid of Mexicans."

      Everyone has some pet issue that they think is so serious that it justifies the violent machinery of the state. Everyone has just one thing that they think is vital enough to merit aggression.... and here we are. Grow a pair, get a grip on yourself and stop threatenijf the rest of us with your violent meltdown over your fear brown people. You sound like a wuss.

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    7. Donxon, you are truly are an incredibly stupid person. If you can't figure out that these people don't offer anything to libertarianism and never will, you can't be helped. I can only hope some of these illegals break in to your private property, rape you and your wife, and kill you. You would too stupid live anyway.

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    8. Re: The Lab Mismanager,

      But if they don't, are you going to accept immigrants aren't rapists and property trespassers, or are you going to be disappointed?

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    9. Sorry, illegal invaders no bueno. https://www.abc15.com/news/crime/pd-woman-zip-tied-and-sexually-assaulted-at-mesa-apartment

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    10. None of my open borders friends answered the question.

      The question was If our target is a libertarian society, do we agree that importing non-libertarians hinders it?

      All of us on this site want the same thing - a libertarian society. To me it does seem surprising that all of us libertarians cannot agree on the necessity of this simple entry criteria.

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    11. Hi Marmite,

      Good question. I'd say yes, surely in the short run. Ironically for open borderites, this just in:

      https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2234200

      Hope this gets past moderation. Result: US immigrants significantly less supportive of libertarian values than American born respondents.

      Kind regs from Amsterdam,
      Richard

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    12. A very interesting publication - thank you.

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    13. Let the immigrants have their own non-peaceful enclave. Let them have a socialist community. There is nothing in libertarianism that says people can't form their own voluntary community where they set their own rules for membership. In the meantime, others can form a libertarian community and set libertarian rules for entry/membership. If you own the property, you should get to set the rules, socialist, libertarian or otherwise.

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  9. This is all well and good in an ideal world. But since we dont live in one adjustments are made.

    I look at it like this. If I live by NAP then others need to live by NAP with me immigrants included. If you dont go along to get along in a society with a pretty stable cultural foundation - go somewhere else. The moment you try to force your beliefs or culture down my throat is the moment you create 110% animosity toward you and your aggression.

    I think some people forget that if you are immigrant you better tow the line in many places in the this sovereign or there will be consequences. Much of this attitude hinges on the NAP

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  10. Don't bring the 'turd' world here:

    https://alfinnextlevel.wordpress.com/2018/01/19/world-travel-risk/

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  11. Are the Romans that afraid of Barbarians?

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  12. Re: Stuffed Pimento,

    They weren't enough not to ally themselves wih them or have them join their armies or accept them as rullers after the emperors tried to raise taxes on Romans.

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  13. "This problem goes away in a private property society.."

    Precisely! And the way towards a PPS is through open borders? What's wrong with these white cultural relativists in the US?

    This reply allowable over here RW/mod?

    Cheers,
    Richard

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  14. Lab Manager, while Bob Higgs certainly doesn’t need me to defend him, his brilliant work speaks for him, I will say for you to say that he is ignorant only shows how ignorant you really are.

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