Sunday, October 9, 2016

Can Donald Trump's Pussy Comments Be Defended?

By Robert Wenzel

The post, Trump’s “Vulgar,” “Lewd” Talk?, has resulted in some interesting back and forth in the comments.

Francisco Torres begins with this comment:
There's no defense possible of those comments, Robert. Imagine the guy is talking about your daughter. We can agree HillRod is gross, but this guy is a sewer rat. Is that who people want in the WH?
But  Stuffed Pimento correctly observes:
Did you watch the video? There's nothing to defend. Trump tells a story about him trying unsuccessfully to pull a married lady. Then he is joking about how easy it is for him to pull women because he's a star.
"You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy." It's like he said, locker room banter.
Trump didn't say he grabbed any women. He said that because of his star "status" in many women's eyes they would allow him to do anything including grab them.

I pretty much reported the same thing in a post 2 years ago:
Women who want to get into acting are pretty desperate. There are beautiful women landing at LAX everyday. Because they are likely the prettiest girl in their small town, they think they will be discovered within 6 weeks, 8 max. Not going to happen. Often, if they stay in Hollywood, they decide they will do anything to get a movie break.

I have seen this on the periphery.

One night in Hollywood, I was with a money manager friend at Skybar, where the waitresses are extremely beautiful and are all there hoping to be "discovered," by the actors, agents, directors and producers who pass through from time to time. At the time, one of my clients was a Hollywood production company. I tended to keep this on the down low, but my buddy told the two girls that were waiting on us that I was " producing movies." Perhaps because I tried to play it down, the girls sensed there was some genuineness to the story and they pretty much spent the rest of the night waiting on us and hanging with us and ignoring all their other customers to the point that the other customers finally realized that the only way they were going to get service was to come over to where the two waitresses were with us.

My buddy and I eventually decided to move on. I got the girls numbers (and I did actually get a bit role for one of the girls in a film) but to understand what the environment was like when we were still there and after the girls learned I was "a movie producer," and this is a bit crude, but it gets it right, my buddy said to me when we were leaving, "Do you realize either one of those two would have given you a blow job right then and there?" These girls are beautiful but desperate.

Another time, I ended up at a table with Oliver Stone and the former football player/actor Jim Brown. It was at the restaurant Asia de Cuba, which is next to Skybar. I have pretty good game, but it is really something else sitting at a table with these two guys. You don't have to say anything. If you are sitting with Oliver Stone, that's enough for some of the most beautiful girls in the world to throw themselves your way. Amazing.
That's all Trump was saying in his very crude way. Big deal. I went to school with a Kennedy cousin, you want to hear vulgar, I will introduce you to him.

Again, Trump didn't say he groped any women, He just stated in his crude bombastic manner that some women would let him get away with anything and from my experiences that is likely a FACT.

That no one in mainstream media has pointed this out, NO ONE, and they are all going along with the distortion that "Trump bragged about groping women," just shows you how dishonest mainstream media is.

Secondly, I am really sick and tired of the idea that we must  look into every nook and cranny of an individual's life before we decide whether to do business with him.

As I have written in a slightly different context:
I know people that are prejudice against blacks, other that hate Czechs, yes Czechs!, and some that hate Jews. Again, so what? If someone spends most of their living breathing hours hating, blacks, Czechs or Jews, I am not going to spend much time with them, if any, because I would be bored to death, but why should I care about their views?

Because of some service or product they provide, I may interact with them, but I really don't care what their views are on other subjects, as long as they are not advocating some kind of coercion against others, that is, advocating a violation of the non-aggression principle.

The world is about exchange, with a very few people I will have interaction on many levels. With many others, I will only have limited interaction. With most people on the planet, I will have no interaction. If these people are not violating the non-aggression principle, why should I have any obligation to change their views on anything?

and:

The complexity of the world is such that we all have transactions with all kinds of people, but we tend to limit interactions to mutually beneficial aspects. At the restaurant where I have bacon and eggs every morning, there is a nice little old lady who is the cashier. We exchange pleasantries every morning, but I can't imagine our worlds ever intersecting far beyond that. For all I know, she spends her time off at some knitting club, which frightens me with boredom just thinking about it. What we have in common is likely very little.

If someone spends his entire day walking around with a swastika on his arm and ranting hate about Jews and blacks, I am going to spend little to no time with such a person, any more than I am with a little old lady, who knits all day.

But, my friends, who are racists or homophobes, have characteristics that make friendship possible. It is limited to what we have in common, not their racism and homophobia. As far as I am concerned, racist and homophobic views display a narrow view of the world. But my interaction with my racist and homophobic friends has nothing to do with that part of their world. And, I note again, I do not consider it my responsibility to act as an unpaid public relations agent for the black or gay community.
and:

 Every day we all deal with people based on specific transactions, and don't pry beyond that. The grocery store down the street from me is run by a guy from Dubai. He smiles and is always polite to all his customers.
I have no idea what his political or religious views are. I doubt he is a libertarian. I am simply glad that he always has on hand the grocery items I need.

My laundry is run by an Asian woman. She is quite uncommunicative. I am not sure if she is shy, depressed or hates Caucasians, but she takes in my clothes gets them washed quickly and cheaply, that's all I care about.

There is a lesbian at the local Kinko's that is so sharp and efficient that if I need any printing, shipping or anything else done that is a bit complicated, I will go to the store when she is there. Not because she is lesbian but because she is competent.

That's the way the world generally works. The world would get pretty crazy if we had to start examining people's views before we conducted any transactions with them.
The idea that we have to examine all views a person holds before we deal with them is firstly absurd. It can't possibly be done. Secondly, the notion that it should be done is nothing but another attempt by which cultural Marxists are attempting to embed central planning into our system.

If Donald Trump were to advance the country toward free markets and liberty, I really wouldn't give a damn how crude he was even then. My problem with Trump is that he is taking on-board more and more neocon advisers on almost a daily basis and that he seemingly has no idea of why interventionism in general is bad for a country.

As for those of you who have daughters, well if you want to do battle against crude talk and think you can change the entire world, go for it. But you are much better off to give your daughters the advice to stay away from crude men and tell them what the former Mafia head John Gotti told his daughter: "No matter how grandfatherly a man may look to you, just remember one thing, they all only have one thing on their minds."

You should also tell them they should never be alone in a room with a man unless they want to sleep with that man. That simple advice works much better than the wacko lefties who are crying that date rape occurs all over the damn place and want to change the entire world by intellectually castrating men.

Most may not realize it but those objecting  at the drop of a hat to all interactions with those who have non-politically correct views are just useful idiots for the serious cultural Marxists who understand that the real goal is gaining full power---over everyone.

So I am sorry, but Trump is very crude in private when he is among men, but that seems to be the beginning and end of the story. "So what?" is my attitude toward this entire hullabaloo, especially when there are very serious charges that Hillary Clinton is the great enabler of Bill Clinton's alleged rapes. Ask yourself, why isn't there lefty news media focus on this, which seems a lot more horrific than Trump's talk on the tape?

In contrast to Bill Clinton's vicious attacks, I found Trump's discussion on the leaked tape of his failed seduction very revealing. It seems this guy knows boundaries that Bill and Hillary have no clue about.

Trump's terrible and doesn't deserve support because of his interventionist positions. It has nothing to do with him being a pig. I really don't care about his pussy comments or who has grabbed more vaginas over their lifetimes, Trump or Hillary.

Robert Wenzel is Editor & Publisher of  EconomicPolicyJournal.com and Target Liberty. He also writes EPJ Daily Alert and is author of The Fed Flunks: My Speech at the New York Federal Reserve Bank. Follow him on twitter:@wenzeleconomics and on LinkedIn.

10 comments:

  1. Well said Bob. Everyone just wants to grandstand and "prove" they aren't sexist, when in fact everyone knows this kind of talk is quite common (and quite common among women also when talking about men). What's absurd is that people cannot even do just a little bit of research into Bill Clinton's treatment of women and Hillary's complicity in the cover ups.

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    1. Not all of us are grandstanding about sexism. My argument has nothing to do with sexism nor do I care anything about 'sexism'. I'm well aware women are exactly the same and I don't care for them either.

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    2. http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/29/410606045/the-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-explained

      Enjoy!

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  2. ---But Stuffed Pimento correctly observes---

    What? "Correctly observes"? What is correct about questioning if I saw the video? What is correct about dismissing those disgusting comments as "regular locker banter"? What the heck is "regular" about them? Do you talk like that? I certainly don't, and I certainly would not vote for anyone who talks like that about PEOPLE, about HUMAN BEINGS.

    --- "So what?" is my attitude toward this entire hullabaloo, especially when there are very serious charges that Hillary Clinton is the great enabler of Bill Clinton's alleged rapes. ---

    Indeed. I am not, however, in the habit of making Tu Quoque fallacies. The person who enabled those alleged rapes was Bill Clinton. He's an individual of will. HillRod has her own share of awfulness, but none of that is relevant hen it comes to judging ANOTHER individual of will who responds by the name Donald Trump.

    --- You should also [women] they should never be alone in a room with a man unless they want to sleep with that man. ---

    Sure.

    You know, some Middle Eastern religions require women to cover themselves so that they don't "provoke" lascivious thoughts on men. I always considered such doctrinal requirements a sign of cultural immaturity. I guess immaturity is not the exclusive realm of Middle Easter bigots.

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  3. --- Trump didn't say he grabbed any women. ---

    He bragged about trying to seduce a married woman who rebuffed him. I ask you 'correctly': did YOU watch the tape?

    See how that works?

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  4. Trump bragged about trying to seduce a married woman, and how his attempts failed. So what's the big fucking deal? 55-60% of american marriages have infidelity. Are you a prudish clown? If you want a priest, go to your fucking church. We are trying to prevent nuclear war, save whatever is left of our wealth for our posterity, prevent more middle eastern violence and European/American invasion as a result, and over all decrease in living standards for the human race. You prude fucks can go jerk off in the corner to your "cultural" and "moral" sophistication.

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    1. Re: Valley sapien,

      --- So what's the big fucking deal? ---

      It speaks about his amorality, Valley.

      --- 55-60% of american marriages have infidelity. ---

      Perhaps. Most infidelities are affairs of two. El Trumpo was bragging about trying to bag a woman that did not want him. That's not infedility. That's harassment.

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    2. Nothing wrong with being a prude. Being a prude is the anti-degenerate thing to do.

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    3. How would one know a woman doesn't want him unless he approached her? How does one know a woman is not playing hard to get unless he continues his advances, especially if she is being coy or noncommittal.

      Unless a woman directly says something to the effect of I'm not interested, or stop hitting on me, or leave me alone, or take a hint, or what have you then a man is within his right to continue wooing the woman.

      Pepe Le Pew is sexual assault. Getting past the first objection is courtship.

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  5. So the actual scene that Donald Trump plays in Days of Our Lives is really unbelievable. It's essentially the exact situation Trump describes on the bus! Trump plays a successful business mogul (himself). The actress plays a woman who is willing to do anything (wink, wink) to work for Trump.

    Queue the soft-core porn music (no really, the soundtrack to this scene is some kind of cheesy porno music)...and action.

    She offers: "If maybe you can consider me for a place in your organization, whatever that might be. I think that you'll find that I'm a very (sexy eyes) willing employee. Working under you I think could be mutually beneficial."

    Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4s-iHyRJrI&feature=youtu.be

    Unbelievable that this has not been covered by any of these crooked or lazy journalists.

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