How sad can the New York Times get.
During a New York Times interview of Paul Krugman, the NYT host of the podcast, Susan Lehman, mispronounced the NYT columnist's name. She called him KrUGman, pronouncing the ug as it is pronounced in UGgies.
According to Krugman, he pronounces his name KrOOgman, something close to crookman but a little more like croogman.
The interview itself is UGly. Krugman at his worst.