Wednesday, November 11, 2015

Trump: We Will Have a “Deportation Force”

Wednesday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,”  Donald Trump said to remove the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants living in the Untied States, he would have a “deportation force.”

Trump said, “You’re going to have a deportation force. And your going to do it humanly. And you’re going to bring the country —frankly, you have excellent, wonderful people. fantastic people who have been here for a period of time. Don’t forget you have millions of people that are waiting on a line to come into this country and come in legally. I always say the wall. We’re going to build the wall and it’s going to be a real deal. There’s going to be a real wall. There’s going to be a picture of magazines where they’re taking drugs over the wall and built a ramp and the truck is going up and down. The wall is like a highway. It’s not going to happen. It’s going to be a Trump wall. It going to be a real wall. It’s going to stop people and it’s going to be good.”

Very scary stuff. This guy is a major league believer in ruling with force.

 -RW

(via Breitbart)

11 comments:

  1. This guy is insane. Of course, most of them are, but this is just authoritarian stuff.

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  2. What is more scary, is this guy will likely be very effective at getting what he wants. He's a delegator, and it could be very scary.

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    1. Yes! That is why for strategic reasons it is better to see Hillary as president, if it comes down to Hillary vs. Trump.

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  3. Economic incentives for illegals and practicality aside, why would forceful deportation not be the correct principled libertarian position to take?

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    1. I had a big reply I've deleted twice now...I guess I just don't like the thought of the implied violence against people who are peacefully living their lives. Seems so much easier to just cut the welfare benefits to non-citizens and destroy the incentive. Or just destroy all govt benefits would be best but at least don't give them to anyone who can ride in a cattle truck 300 miles.

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    2. Leaving aside the morality of the use of violence to evict people, one source estimated the cost at $12k per immigrant. That comes to $132 billion, which will need to be taken from the taxpayers or future taxpayers (if it's borrowed). So, to violently remove illegal immigrants, you need to violently steal a lot of money from the taxpayers first. Additionally, the bureaucracy needed to undertake the operation would be enormous. It would likely become permanent and used for who knows what when (or if) the eviction is ever completed. The bottomline is that even if you ignore the economic incentive problem and practicality, a libertarian should still oppose forceful removal because of the the wicked unintended consequences that would surely arise as a result. You're inviting totalitarian violence to solve what could be solved simply and without violence.

      Of course, you know the real solution is just to eliminate the welfare incentives and then allow for expanded legal immigration. But how likely are the politicians to adopt the proper and peaceful policy?

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    3. There is absolutely zero moral issues involved in using violence to expel an invader.

      This hand wringing most of the west is suffering from over the invader is sad.

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  4. This is a bad idea, which is why the people clamor for it, I guess.

    And Trump is going to build a wall. It took over three decades, but the republicans went from demanding that a wall be torn down to building one themselves. You always become what you hate.

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  5. Yet I still here no solutions for what happens when legal immigrants get caught in this mess because we all know how effective government is when it implements it's programs. Not to mention the power hungry thugs that this force will attract.

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  6. Rothbard was an early supporter of Senator McCarthy due to his ability to shake up the establishment. He later realized that the inevitable outgrowth of McCarthy's domestic anti-communism was a militaristic foreign policy, and regretted his previous support. In "The Betrayal of the American Right", Rothbard stated:

    "In sum, that there was a vital need to appeal directly to the masses, emotionally, even demagogically, over the heads of the Establishment: of the Ivy League, the mass media, the liberal intellectuals, of the Republican-Democrat political party structure."

    Does this not perfectly explain the appeal of Donald Trump and Ben Carson? Will the populist push for removal of illegal immigrants inevitably lead to a more aggressive foreign policy?

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    1. Like Bob pointed out in an article earlier this week, Trump is only against past wars and has no qualms about starting new ones. At least Carson is somewhat more honest in his warmongering.

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