Sunday, August 11, 2019

The Immigrant-Hating Trump Must Be Condemned

A particularly evil event took place in America under the Trump administration in Morton, Mississippi on Friday.

It was payday for PH Food and Koch Foods workers at these chicken processing plants. But instead of getting their paychecks, these hardworking, family-oriented people were arrested by Trump's ICE agents.

These people weren't Trump's bogeymen "rapists and murderers," these were good people being arrested, and likely tossed out of America for no good reason.

And it is dump from an economic perspective. These are low-paying, dirty jobs that the pampered Trump family and his supporters certainly don't want to do.

The New York Times reports:
 On Friday, pallets [at PH Food] were stacked high with packing materials and high-grade sodium phosphate inside the chicken processing plant, but the chicken lines were not running.
A supervisor named Jorge Mazariegos took a call on his cellphone. “Monday morning, I’m open, six o’clock, day shift,” he said.
Mr. Mazariegos did not think there were enough workers to bring the chicken plant up to full capacity. Perhaps 30 percent, he said. He did not know what the future might hold.
It is very difficult to understand how one can claim to be libertarian and not condemn Trump and this activity under his watch.

 -RW

23 comments:

  1. But the Koch Brothers own this company, right? So I am pretty sure that ICE should be applauded by the left for extracting these poor people of color from the degradation and inhumanity of wage slavery.

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    1. I checked it out and the Koch brothers do not own it.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Foods
      The company is owned by Joseph Grendys.

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  2. It seems if you want to stay a libertarian and not be ultimately send to a gulag to get your mind right, you would want to eject AOC and her people from your country.

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  3. These kind of raids should be happening everyday of the week and these people need to rounded up and deported ASAP. F___ the baby waving already!

    I agree with libertarians that the minimum wage law should be abolished and there way too many regulations that make employing people difficult. However, if we don't kick these people out we get the entire turd world squatting here.

    If we absolutely need these people, I would not object to some sort of short term worker card where they work and go the hell back where they came from, but that should be a last resort.

    Keep in mind that the labor leader Cesar Chavez had no love for illegal immigrants.

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  4. "It is very difficult to understand how one can claim to be libertarian and not condemn Trump and this activity under his watch."

    Interesting. I don't recall needing to condemn Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, or any of those before them. Only the federal government as an institution. The federal government has been doing these raids for as long as my memory stretches back. Cheech Marin even made a comedy that starts with such a raid on an employer. "Born in East L.A." (1987).

    I'll condemn the federal government for creating a collectivist corporatist system that is defended through raids such as this. I won't blame decades of evil fedgov on Trump as if it started with him. That simply allows it all to get swept back under the rug again once he's gone.

    libertarians should be taking advantage of the situation when everyone is finding every evil fedgov has been doing just to blame it on Trump and point out at every instance how long its been doing it.

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  5. "These are low-paying, dirty jobs that the pampered Trump family and his supporters certainly don't want to do."

    You know Bob, it's one thing to make the true observation that Trump and his family are pampered. It's not so much that they don't want to do the work that they don't need to.

    Further, you have no idea the kind of work his supporters want to or will do or for what price. Is that stupidity or mendacity?

    It's very nice and touching how concerned you are for the welfare of strangers at the expense of people already living in your country. I hope you continue to futilely wring your hands at the outrage of Trump's actions at least until 2025, if not longer.

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  6. It amazes me how many of you have forgotten a simple axiom, "No victim, no crime!" All of you applauding this can't seriously call yourself libertarian.

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  7. Having a functioning nation > maximizing corporate profit margins

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  8. These illegals that got deported are not libertarians, so good thing they are not here any longer pushing this country towards more statism.

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    1. If they were, I seriously doubt your white supremacist rump would care, so stop saying that. You fool no one.

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    2. You're using fake news media's talking points. There is no such thing as white supremacy. Maybe you are trying to refer to white nationalism. Don't parrot your TV.

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  9. You use the word "hate" as if hate is a bad thing. Rothbard asked "Do you hate the state?" If you hate statism, then you must hate illegals who are statists and cheer when Trump kicks them out.

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    1. Hate is a bad thing. You hate what you fear. Fear numbs the mind. I'm not against the state because I hate it, but because it's existence is a threat to individual liberty. I don't hate statists; I think they're wrong, but I can't be happy when a government throws them out because that same government can throw anyone out when provided with such power. But your white supremacist rump surely doesn't understand those things if you're driven sorely by feelings and emotions, like blind hate.

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    2. It’s not hate. It’s love. The more one loves freedom, the more he hates those who threaten his freedom. Hate can’t exist if love didn't exist first. If you don't hate that which would destroy what you love, then you do not in fact love. Are you aware that Mexicans and South Americans vote for and support big government? They have low skills and low IQ and they parasitize off the productive class to get more for themselves. Wake up dude.

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  10. ---"These people weren't Trump's bogeymen "rapists and murderers," these were good people being arrested, and likely tossed out of America for no good reason."---

    There's no GOOD reason but there's a reason: race. According to one female worker who works for one of the chicken processing plants, when ICE agents entered the premises, "they separated the Hispanics on one side and the non-Hispanics on the other side". It's clear they weren't looking for undocumented Canadians.

    So while there's no good economic or moral reason to kidnap 680 peaceful individuals at gun point, the only reason left is merely to present a cruel spectacle for Trump's white supremacist base. Based on the rave reviews I could read here, it looks like his white supremacist base were very satisfied.

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    1. They trespassed onto a sovereign nation. The taxpayers don't want parasites here.

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    2. Are you going to find Polish illegal aliens in a chicken processing plant in Mississippi? No. You look for them in Chicago, NJ, and NY. And there are only 49,000 of them in the entire USA anyway. The government knows what illegals live where. They have data. In Mississippi it's not Poles or Canadians. BTW, the Canadians are in CA,TX,MI,WA,NY,FL.

      Have fun with the data:
      https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/unauthorized-immigrant-populations-country-and-region-top-state-and-county

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    3. @limelemon

      They didn't trespass. If they were given jobs to work at chicken processing plants, or what have you, they're invited by those firms. I, as a taxpayer, certainly want them here doing arduous work. Who the hell are you to overrule my preference (or use the State to violently impose your views)?

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  11. Government Immigration regulation is socialism.
    Why? Because government control of what would otherwise be the private sector's importation of labor capital for use as in input in the manufacturing or production process is public control of the means of production, i.e. SOCIALISM; It's the government co-opting or commandeering aspects normally undertaken by the private sector.
    So all you conservatives and faux-libertarians, go ahead and keep criticizing socialism and making fun of AOC all you want (she's an idiot), but stop being hypocrites and supporting socialism by supporting government regulation of immigration.

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    1. The same corporations who import the labor are often leveraging the welfare and collectivism of government to reduce the costs of employing these people and attract them. This in turn brings about the government regulation of immigration. Government regulation of immigration thus is the result of other government interferences in the economy. Eliminate those interferences and the immigration problem largely goes away.

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