Friday, April 26, 2019

Trump On Measles Vaccine: 'They have got to get the shots.'

"They have to get the shots. The vaccinations are so important, this is really going around now. They have to get the shots," that's the latest from President Trump in a comment today.

It is not clear whether Trump was just encouraging parents to get their children vaccinated against measles or whether he belives government short coerce children into getting the vaccine but clearly Trump has left the vaccine skeptic's camp.



  1. Obviously this article: that LRC ran the other day is more than 280 characters so Trump is incapable of reading it.

    The article backs up what I have previously concluded, that it’s too much and too soon.

    From the article: “No other developed country administers as many vaccine doses in the first two years of life as the US.”

    “The U.S. has the very highest infant mortality rate of all industrialized countries, with more American children dying at birth and in their first year than in any other comparable nation—and more than half of those who survive develop at least one chronic illness.”

    “Japan banned the MMR vaccine in the 90’s, due to an injury rate that was “over 2,000 times higher than the expected rate.”

    “In 1994, Japan transitioned away from mandated vaccination in public health centers to voluntary vaccination in doctors’ offices, guided by “the concept that it is better that vaccinations are performed by children’s family doctors who are familiar with their health conditions.””

    The evidence is showing that there is a small percentage of children (mostly male) that are susceptible to adverse reactions to vaccines. This fact makes the Japanese concept that it is better that vaccinations are performed by children’s family doctors who are familiar with their health conditions even more rational.

    The initiation of force is bad. Forced medication is one of the worst initiations of force.

    1. The comparative statistics regarding American infant mortality rates are highly questionable for a variety of reasons.

      It also seems to me that the article claims way to much than is warranted in suggesting that lower infant mortality rate is caused by its better vaccine schedule.

    2. Good points.

      I have seen/heard those or similar info on the stats for infant mortality and health issues. I did not check the stats from the article by CHD. I would have rather seen stats on what is being claimed as caused by vaccines such as downs syndrome, brain issues and seizures. And of course correlation does not equal causation but there is a body of evidence indicating that vaccines do cause health issues in some children.

      Parents should be free to determine what medical treatments are administered to their children and when.

  2. Trump has given up on most of the policies he campaigned on.

  3. Such an important issue and although I was always skeptical of Trump on this issue (he has no underlying principles that I trust), but it is still disappointing to see him reverse course from saying vaccines need to be safer to appointing a pro-vaccer to the DHHS and then saying these tings regarding the measles. I encourage anyone who cares about freedom and health to spend some time learning more about this issue. Here are some interesting videos to get you started:

    Interview with a practicing pediatrician:

    Dr. Stanly Plotkin under deposition (there is lots to watch here and the interviewing lawyer does a great job):

    Dr. Suzanne Humphries who was a practicing nephrologist until she noticed negative results after her patients received vaccines:

  4. Apparently, Trump is no longer autonomous and is as owned as Hillary - "The science is clear; vaccines work". But didn't hear any protest about the Ebola nurse who fought for her right to endanger the citizenry, Kaci Hickok. Something really off with that one. @AlexZougle , I had just read that about Japan and vaccination. As a matter of fact, given the aggressive movement to derail our very basic freedom, I signed up for membership in Children's Health Defense. I looked it up, as I am mostly unfamiliar with the marketing of political opinions because I reject tyranny and proselytizing.

  5. Of course the elephant in the room that no one dare mention is that we wouldn't be having these outbreaks of measles, TB, etc, if we weren't flooding the country with third world migrants. They are bringing their source country's diseases with them. But then Public Health is so last century.

  6. I don't agree with that, @Robert What? , but do believe that first world travelers to and from the USA often bring back illnesses that we are neither accustomed to nor prepared for. Wasn't even the famous Disneyland measles outbreak brought by travelers outside the country?

  7. @Lucia, let me make sure I understand you. Let's take Somalians, who are being imported into Minnesota by the tens of thousands and where many diseases are seeing a recurrence. It is not the Somalians who are bringing in the diseases. Instead it is the occasional American tourists to Somalia who are bringing them back? But if Somalia wasn't overrun with diseases, how are the tourists bringing them back? My head hurts.

    Of course we don't know for certain who is bringing them in because testing the migrants for communicable diseases would be, you know, racist. And public health is so last century. Open borders, free flow of peoples and all that crap. How come no one ever wants to migrate to Somalia?

    1. I couldn't comment on Somalia, as I wasn't thinking about tourism into an undeveloped country as a reason for Disneyland's measles outbreak or the flu viruses that have found their way here through those who take leisure vacations out of the USA. I don't know whether I'd call it racist to test immigrants for communicable diseases, but as I'd mentioned, Kaci Hickok was exposed to deadly Ebola and felt it was worth going to federal court to challenge her isolation. Of course, she had strong professional connections and was no immigrant. When we did have cases of Ebola here, I found it very concerning, but it seems that the more vocal amongst us are far more concerned with measles.