Tuesday, January 12, 2016

The Masses Obey Orders From...

...almost anyone.


  1. "We get to go to the polls every couple of years and choose between two flavors of the same gruel. The inmates get to elect the guards. Then, having exercised our rights as free citizens of a great social democracy, we go back to obeying orders." – Hal O'Boyle

  2. Mark Dice is performing an excellent service to many by illuminating the general attitudes of most in our society.

    While many of the well known names of classic liberalism and libertarianism have done great work in illuminating what the "state" is, you can also appreciate those that illuminate what the "masses" represent. In fact, I'm not sure they aren't as equally as important.

    Can the masses ever be "educated"? I have my doubts.

    1. Nick, the masses are being educated by the government in "public" schools every day. This behavior is no accident, it is the desired result, and the full reason why "public" education was created in this country after the Irish potato famine, with John Dewey's (yes, of the library's decimal system) progressive ideas that now permeate how everyone is educated here in the US.

      The education system has been intentionally constructed to breed out any independent thought in order to make you an extremely compliant servant of the government's whims. It becomes *extremely* difficult to change behavior that has been engrained into young minds for the most formative years of their developing minds.

      If you want to educate the masses, you need to remove the government's control of the education system.

    2. So I suppose I can mark you as being in the "optimistic" category?


      Seriously, my wife does a wonderful job of homeschooling our four kids, you won't get any argument from me when it comes to bashing the government run educational system.

      But even before the advent of public schooling, I believe there were similar issues with "the masses" in antiquity, early Athenian democracy, etc. et al

      I'm not as sure the removal of government centered/run school solves the problem as much as you are.(but I hope you're right)

    3. Well now you've broached a different subject, which is "the masses" via Democracy! Democracy is mob rule. None of the founders of this country, regardless of them being Federalists or Anti-Federalists, thought anything of majority rule being conducive to "Life, Liberty, or the Pursuit of Happiness."

    4. Mark Dice's videos are demonstrations of using various social techniques to manipulate people to certain ends. It's what politicians do, it's what criminals do, it's what corporate climbers do, it's what computer hackers do, and many more. It would be nice if he said what he was doing instead of just saying the people are stupid. It would expose how people are manipulated into things and that would be force for the positive.

      If I were to encounter Mark Dice for this video and he was rather cop like and demanding as he is here and 'no' and walking away didn't get him to stop pestering me I would lie to him. Why? Because I don't want a fight and if he is some government employee by the time he realizes I lied he won't be able to find me. But I would be featured as one of the stupid sheep in the video and everything I told him would be bogus. Name? Jimmy Joe Meeker, Address was 29 Cove Road Malibu, CA.

    5. "It would be nice if he said what he was doing instead of just saying the people are stupid. It would expose how people are manipulated into things and that would be force for the positive."

      It could be argued that if one is easily manipulated into giving away important personal details of your life that could be used to harm them, that they might be stupid.

      I will grant to you that we don't know how many people have given him fake information to avoid conflict. That's a very real possibility and hard to estimate.

    6. Has less to do with intelligence and more to do with conditioning and the extracting party's social skills. (in this case to leverage the conditioning of identifying ourselves) Conditioning trumps intelligence which is why the government schools are as they are.

  3. To be fair, he is conducting this experiment in Southern California.