tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post4854623108443908879..comments2024-01-13T07:38:36.064-05:00Comments on Target Liberty: A Further Comment on Cheering on CalexitRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-54276867721975984492016-11-17T16:05:21.137-05:002016-11-17T16:05:21.137-05:00It depends on where you are physically located in ...It depends on where you are physically located in regards to the secession. In Wenzel's case he is on the wrong side of the split. Losing Cali would be a positive for a guy like myself in Florida. Less lefty wackos to contend with.<br />Stay calm and secede (in your best interest) ! http://flexitfl.com<br />Rhetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06551609614781251549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-63703150290756924122016-11-14T11:02:13.698-05:002016-11-14T11:02:13.698-05:00Eh...YEAH.
Or do you think where you are living n...Eh...YEAH.<br /><br />Or do you think where you are living now is the same as living in Sudan or North Korea? Never heard of a phenomenon called "refugees"? Imagine if they had nowhere to go where things are better. So yes, competition between states creates freedom, which is exactly why governments oppose secession in the first place.<br /><br />There is a reason libertarians prefer Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-53086653464348991062016-11-14T01:12:44.268-05:002016-11-14T01:12:44.268-05:00"adding more weight to the historical evidenc..."adding more weight to the historical evidence against socialism."<br /><br />Since when did people learn from history? Greenbulldoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00343137252834806971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-24503788724892077132016-11-13T20:43:32.153-05:002016-11-13T20:43:32.153-05:00I agree the country would collapse if it followed ...I agree the country would collapse if it followed socialistic policies but unintended consequences could take it a completely different direction. For instance, you are too harsh on those "wackos" in Hollywood. They often verbally support socialistic ideas but their actions tell a different story as they continue to participate in a most fiercely competitive business. In many ways the Brian Ericksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10188778202762603278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-6460893340567215922016-11-13T19:30:26.240-05:002016-11-13T19:30:26.240-05:00If the people of California are "wacko, lefty...If the people of California are "wacko, lefty" then their presence in the same country as others jeopardizes the liberties of the other people. The best thing for the rest is to remove California, no? Matt@Occidentalism.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395220402283030311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-16371135844657757202016-11-13T18:41:37.090-05:002016-11-13T18:41:37.090-05:00We have more than if there were fewer countries, o...We have more than if there were fewer countries, or one country. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02514260366241042732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-61804501172764056882016-11-13T18:30:35.868-05:002016-11-13T18:30:35.868-05:00My great-great-grandfather marched with John C. Fr...My great-great-grandfather marched with John C. Fremont when he went to Monterey, California and kidnapped Jacob P. Leese, and General Mariano Vallejo in 1846. My six foot, six inch tall ancestor was put in charge of taking these two hostages back to Sutter's fort and guarding them in the fort's jail. So I have a unique perspective on California's history and what Mariano Vallejo Switchbladehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01066362172916510178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-64996031724671653272016-11-13T17:07:34.647-05:002016-11-13T17:07:34.647-05:00So we should maintain the union as is until most p...So we should maintain the union as is until most people have a fundamental appreciation of liberty? So much for the marketplace of ideas being allowed to work itself out voluntarily. You live in Cali and are liberty minded so that colors your opinion of Calexit. However, we all know many (definitely a majority) people there are not at all liberty minded. Not being a resident of that state, I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-80045099795770789142016-11-13T17:05:42.385-05:002016-11-13T17:05:42.385-05:00Oh yeah, just like we have liberty across the worl...Oh yeah, just like we have liberty across the world now because of competition between countries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-65876035498813725012016-11-13T16:00:24.909-05:002016-11-13T16:00:24.909-05:00While it is certainly true that the result of a Ca...While it is certainly true that the result of a California secession would be a "wacko, lefty" government, this is not all together a bad thing. Such a government would collapse into Venezuela-style chaos within 10 years of its formation, adding more weight to the historical evidence against socialism. It would also be just desserts for all the wackos in Hollywood and elsewhere to Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00267050861346616929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-77265086749182969522016-11-13T15:42:21.229-05:002016-11-13T15:42:21.229-05:00I agree with you on this. To me, the question is ...I agree with you on this. To me, the question is 'What is secession'? What does 'secession' mean? <br />It means a person or group withdrawing from the political authority of another group.<br />Calexit doesn't meet that definition. The people who want Calexit are not withdrawing by itself. What they are doing is withdrawing themselves and then going and forcing their will Dexter Morgan the Greathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300560113089656011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-84140895037823370922016-11-13T15:12:05.414-05:002016-11-13T15:12:05.414-05:00You're missing the point. The argument is that...You're missing the point. The argument is that decentralization causes liberty because of competition between the states. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02514260366241042732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-5037917401790011602016-11-13T14:58:16.225-05:002016-11-13T14:58:16.225-05:00it would serve the people that live on the contine...it would serve the people that live on the continent known as north america much better if all of gov't and their siblings were herded into california and california was designated its own country. removal of these criminals and the possibility of harm coming from thier offspring would be a great forst step in returning the stolen land back to those who have been wronged by these types of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com