tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post3924235046580772349..comments2024-01-13T07:38:36.064-05:00Comments on Target Liberty: Response to Bob Wenzel on the NAP and AnarchismRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-36573747884419234142016-02-27T10:42:51.831-05:002016-02-27T10:42:51.831-05:00Hollow,
"My point is that the "shun and...Hollow,<br /><br />"My point is that the "shun and ostracize" argument, on which so much of anarcho-society smooth functioning seems to rest, is weak. People do not necessarily shun and ostracize aggressive NAP violators."<br /><br />I understand your point, but it is not unique to anarcho society, per se. In fact, you are refer to a specific historical example- "...the Rick Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11751593125225334255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-34038905483215571772016-02-26T14:41:53.913-05:002016-02-26T14:41:53.913-05:00@RIck Miller: My point is that the "shun and ...@RIck Miller: My point is that the "shun and ostracize" argument, on which so much of anarcho-society smooth functioning seems to rest, is weak. People do not necessarily shun and ostracize aggressive NAP violators. Partly out of the fear of "repercussions" they may experience from the violators for doing so. Partly also out of a culturally contextual viewpoint of right andAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-23498621925683485322016-02-26T13:26:47.979-05:002016-02-26T13:26:47.979-05:00Hollow,
"Organized gangs present a real prob...Hollow,<br /><br />"Organized gangs present a real problem for anarcho-society."<br /><br />How is this problem unique to "anarcho-society"?<br /><br />You refer to the fact that these groups caused all sorts of havoc "...in early and mid-20th century America...yet these folks were not shunned or ostracized or forced into some kind of personal economic autarky. They wereRick Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11751593125225334255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-10565687989445712572016-02-26T11:45:10.110-05:002016-02-26T11:45:10.110-05:00The notion that society would "shun and ostra...The notion that society would "shun and ostracize" NAP violators whether out of some morality or for economic benefit is an untested assumption. Think about the non-state gang known as the mafia in early and mid-20th century America. They used threats, intimidation, and violence as means to their ends. These activities were certainly well known by their community at large, yet these Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-8812743725112743742016-02-26T01:36:03.674-05:002016-02-26T01:36:03.674-05:00The parents of the child, as owners, bear full res...The parents of the child, as owners, bear full responsibility for the child's actions and any repercussions which come about from their failure to control the child. They deserve the scorn of the libertarian for the result, not the farmer.<br /><br />The farmer, as owner, can indeed "...make up his own rules; do exactly as he wishes in his own domain..." In fact, despite Dr. BlockRick Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11751593125225334255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-28611314533451338972016-02-25T18:21:49.794-05:002016-02-25T18:21:49.794-05:00I think this is Block's best response in this ...I think this is Block's best response in this debate so far, too bad it's his last. But I don't think he was quite fair to Wenzel. Nowhere does Wenzel say property rights and the NAP are mutually exclusive. Nowhere does Wenzel say you can invite someone onto your property and shoot him. Unless I missed a post.<br /><br />The way I understand his position, property rights are derived Harryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12320613544957758243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-36583226718129826712016-02-25T10:52:38.152-05:002016-02-25T10:52:38.152-05:00─A man is the absolute king of his castle might we...─A man is the absolute king of his castle might well be Wenzel’s motto. I agree with this, except *I add the side-order constraint that everyone must abide by the NAP everywhere*.─ (Emphasis mine)<br /><br />If that person expects a daily visit from the milkman, then YES. Some people misunderstand the libertarian position by assuming we mean each person can be a barbarian in his or her own land,OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2890852736639676808.post-62910846918512062302016-02-25T09:15:35.994-05:002016-02-25T09:15:35.994-05:00This is precisely why Rothbard, and other such as ...This is precisely why Rothbard, and other such as Hoppe, sought to find and justly validatte such an over-arching rule or absolitist ethic. Its power not derrived by the State but in either Natural Law for Rothbard or Argumentagion Axiom like that of human act for Hoppe. Why foes Wenzel seemjngly stand in oppositon to this, or even its possibility? <br /><br />Without it libertarianism, property,Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018718341065715200noreply@blogger.com